These Two Players Shaped The Way We Use Delay. One Is Very Famous, The Other Not So Much…

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There are many incredible guitar players. Some of them can play a whole bunch of notes within seconds and are able to create the most impressive and skillful guitar experience. They are masters of the fretboard; scales all over the guitar neck just feel like second nature for most of them.

Nonetheless, there is another group of guitar players which even though they do not lack the skill, they are known for choosing another path: every note they play has a purpose; it’s precise, minimalistic, and somehow, they create a soundscape that many of us would love to replicate in our playing. When they play simple, it sounds great.

Maybe you’ve guessed it by know, but most of this guitar players used a delay pedal (or some other effects combined with it) to create their signature sounds. On this post, we’re going to cover 2 of these amazing guitar players and very briefly, try to decode the main gear used during their prime.

Dave Evans a.k.a The Edge – U2

The Edge is arguably the most notorious delay effect user of all all the time. This is because he relied on the effect to create actual guitar parts, not just to embellish them.

He was born the 8th of August 1961 in England, but his family soon moved to Ireland after his father got a job promotion in 1962 when he was just one year old. He was the middle child of the family; which consisted of his younger sister Gill and her older brother Dik.

The Edge 2

From an early age he received music lessons and in the fall of 1976, he met the other guys from U2 after Larry Mullen Jr. (U2’s drummer) posted an advert on the school noticeboard requesting people for a band. He and his brother were among the few guys who responded to the note.

The first meeting of the band was presumably in Mullen’s kitchen with the Edge and his brother as the guitarists; it is said they actually showed up with a homemade electric guitar which had to be shared between them for that first meeting.

He quickly showed guitar abilities that were beyond his age and early on his career, Bono gave him the beloved nickname we all now; first in regards to his sharp facial features, but also attending the fact that Evans had a bright mind and always looked things from “the edge”.

Going back to history, the five-piece ensemble continued like that for some time (first as “Feedback” and then “The Hype”) until in 1978 Dik left the band for good and the well-known quartet (renamed U2 in March 1978) started his way into stardom.

They first won a talent contest and that was the moment everything unfolded; from there on, they continued making music and grew to be one the most successful rock groups of all time (ok, it wasn’t that simple but that story is beyond the scope of this post :)).

I think Edge’s signature sound should be traced to the early and mid 80’s with three main albums:  War (1983), The Unforgettable Fire (1984) and The Joshua Tree (1987). These records contain iconic songs where you can definitely hear the way he uses the delay as his weapon of choice. Listen for instance to New Year’s Day (War), Pride and Bad (The Unforgettable Fire) and Where the Streets Have No Name, I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For and In God’s Country (The Joshua Tree).

Gear Used By The Edge

This is a big topic. Nowadays you can see the full stacked racks of effects he uses live. I think this rack is controlled per se by his guitar technician but in the early days, it was much simpler.

For instance, in 1981 this was the gear he had:

  • EHX Deluxe Memory Man.
  • 2 VOX AC-30 amplified by a Shure SM58 and a AKG D1200.
  • Fender Stratocaster 1973 (Black).
  • Gibson Explorer 1976 (Walnut Finish).

By 1983 his gear was practically the same:

  • 2 EHX Deluxe Memory Man.
  • VOX AC-30 from the 60’s.
  • Roland  JC-120.
  • Fender Stratocaster 1973 (Black).
  • Gibson Explorer 1976 (Walnut Finish).

But he also added a couple of pedals:

  • MXR Dyna Comp compressor.
  • Guayatone PS-102 Zoom Box Distortion.

As you can see it was a pretty simple rig. But by 1987 he started to use the famous Korg SDD 3000 delay racks. This delay is digital, but with the option of adding the modulation to the repeats, which is an important part of the overall sound. It also allowed him to exactly dial up the tempo of the song, another more than essential aspect for his style of playing.

The Edge Basic Guitar Rig
The Edge guitar rig from 1981

It is also worth mentioning the way he holds the guitar pick and the brand he actually uses. His favorite pick seems to be made by a company named Herdim. They produce the Herdim Standard Nylon 0.88 mm Guitar Pick; The Edge also uses the pick upside down, which emphasizes the “chime-ish” sounds created when he plays. Here’s an excerpt on an interview made by Guitar World concerning this issue:

GW: Are you still using Herdim picks, the ones with the dimpled tops?

The Edge: Absolutely. They’re these really cool nylon picks. I just like the way they sound. They make a blue and a red one, but I like the way the blue ones sound. I hold ’em upside down, too. I never analyzed why, they just sound better.

How To Get The U2 Sound?

Quick note: I’ve recently made a post on how to get The Edge’s sound on a budget aiming to his most earlier works; I’ve spent lots of hours on it and I think it contains valuable information. If you want to check that out just go here.

If you have to pick one differential factor concerning the way he uses delay would be the way he mastered dotted eighth repetitions. This is arguably by far the most recognizable feature of his playing style. As already discussed on earlier posts (like this :)), you need to have the exact tempo of the song to make this work.

That’s why back in the day, The Edge used to be the man behind the tempo for playing the songs. Also, people have noticed that the firsts U2 albums with songs using dotted eighth, the tempo of the songs are pretty much the same. This obeys the fact that the Memory Man only has 550 milliseconds of time available and it seems that more often than not, he had to dial the maximum delay time of this pedal to make the dotted eighth effect work.

So, to wrap it up, the classic U2 sound is basically made of a VOX AC 30 (two amps actually, strategically positioned and miced), a couple of analog delays (two Memory Man pedals), the Herdim guitar pick and often times a Fender Strat or Gibson Explorer. Later on, he traded the Memory Man for digital delay racks like the Korg SDD 3000 for more flexibility and features.

There’s also one more important piece of gear that has to be mentioned. The Edge also used an E-bow (a device that creates sustain) for the live and studio versions of the “Unforgettable Fire”.

But the most memorable song with it has to be “With or Without You”. Originally he used to play the lead part of the song with an “Infinite Guitar” (a modified electric guitar that creates sustain) but then he decided to go with the E-bow, which in the end is a more practical solution to achieve this effect.

Again, he has a lot, like a looooot of gear nowadays. He kind of changes his guitar for every song now on live concerts, but the original sound of U2 was comprised of the things mentioned above.

The Edge Guitar Rig 2

Analyzing in depth the guitar tones of The Edge would take a lot of time, but I’ve found on this page one of the most comprehensive studies about this topic and I think it’s worth checking it out: www.amnesta.net/edge_delay/.

Paul Reynolds – A Flock Of Seagulls

You may have never heard of him and you may have never heard of this band, but I’m pretty sure that you’re familiar with the 80’s hit song I Ran (So Far Away). This song was featured in films like “The Wedding Singer” with Adam Sandler and also in the video game “Grand Theft Auto: Vice City”; today it’s just part of pop culture.

A Flock of Seagulls

Back in 1982 it was so popular it reached the several top 5 and top 10 positions in the charts of different countries (number 1 in the weekly chart of Australia, number 3 Billboard Top Charts in the US and number 7 in the New Zealand Weekly Chart); so needless to say, the song was a huge success.

The guitar player of the band was named Paul Reynolds, a teenager by then who had more coolness than the entire brat-pack of the 80’s.

Paul Reynolds

Reynolds was born in Liverpool, in 1962 and just about seventeen years later, he joined the band, replacing the original guitarist (Willie Woo) only to depart from the project a few years after the group was enjoying its heyday.

So, yes, you’ve guessed it, the band didn’t last much longer after that and other original members also departed.

According to Mike Score (the band’s frontman), the reason they broke up the in the first place was pretty much Reynold’s fault. He stated that Reynolds couldn’t handle everything that was going on at the time and got carried away by the fast pace the band was experiencing during those days. You can read a very interesting interview here where Score shares his side of the story.

All this was later on confirmed (sort of) when Reynolds participated in one last reunion concert for VH1’s “Bands Reunited” in 2003. During the occasion, he was asked about his departure and he just said he was too young for the rock n’ roll lifestyle and that the performances left him exhausted.

Reynold’s Guitar Approach

His style of playing and his textural type of sound (similar to The Edge), helped to differentiate the band’s overall tone pushing them to open its way through the typical synth-based songs of that era. I mean, they still had a lot of synth sound on their songs, but Reynolds’ guitar riffs and atmospheric effects were the defining factors (at least in my opinion :)).

If you listen to songs like Space Age Love Song, I Ran or The More You Live The More You Love, you will hear his distinctive guitar riffs. You will also notice the use of delay in most parts; this is a crucial factor in the intro and some arrangements in I Ran, and if my ears don’t fool me, I would say the delay is set to triplets.

The song is 146 BPM so that would be around 137 milliseconds. The repetitions also tend to have a dotted eight feel as far as I can tell so he might as well have been doing that.

You can see so far that Reynolds had also developed this rhythmic technique similar to The Edge. His playing was also minimal in some cases but very effective. This is true for the Space Age Love Song, where you can definitely hear the dotted eighth repetitions when he plays.

Another great example would be the 1983 song Transfer Affection. Here you can clearly hear the simple but yet effective guitar riff that drives much of the whole composition. The notes being played are filled again with delay and chorus and this combination works perfectly in the context of this nostalgic tune.


Gear Used By Paul Reynolds

Here’s where it gets tricky. There’s actually almost nothing (official) about what he used during the best days of the band. Nonetheless, we have some pictures and videos so we can still make some accurate observations and very recently, a reader contacted me with precious information about the gear he used, so let’s get started.

The first thing that needs to be mentioned is obviously the delay. Another effect widely used by him is chorus and is very noticeable throughout his playing, so that’s definitely there. The next logical step is to find out from where the delay and chorus effect came from. Here you can see an interesting picture:

Paul Reynolds Guitar Rig

As you may notice he’s using two amps, a couple of Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus to be precise, which would be the main responsible for his clean chorusy tones. Also, notice the Roland RE-501 Chorus Echo. This was a tape-echo machine introduced by Roland in the early 80s; sadly, it was also their last electro-mechanical effects processor.

Again, this unit came packed with; you’ve guessed it, chorus effect! If you think about that, it kind of seems very logical right now, because his guitar sound it’s filled with modulation that seems to primarily come from the chorus.

Also, it’s worth mentioning this: the Roland RE-501 has 5 different delay modes. He’s probably using settings 4-6 (which allowed the user to have two different delay times at once) in order to create the dotted eighth repetitions in some songs.

He also relied on a ProCo Rat Distortion pedal for his higher gain tones. I’m assuming this pedal was engaged every time he had to play the lead part of the songs. So yes, he used distortion and not overdrive for his lead tones.

There’s also another piece of equipment he used, and you can see that in some live performance videos. It’s a big blue controller. This is a Roland GR-300 Guitar Synthesizer module that he used with the matching Roland G-303 guitar; the guitar had a synth pickup and was manufactured in Japan by  Fuji Gen Ghaki according to Roland’s specifications.

Concerning the guitar, it’s safe to say he had at least 3 or 4 main axes. You can see him playing the following instruments:

  • Kramer XL5.
  • Gibson Firebird.
  • Fender Telecaster (or at least a guitar with a Tele design).
  • Travis Bean Guitar (not sure about this one).

How To Get The A Flock Of Seagulls Sound?

You will need to start with a clean type amp. As we mentioned earlier, Reynolds used a couple of Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus, which are considered one of the legendary amps for clean tones.

Another factor is the chorus effect. You can get this through an amp or through a pedal. A good chorus pedal will suffice. Nonetheless, you have to take into account that his modulation also came from the Roland RE-501; what I’m trying to say is that the repetitions where modulated itself with the chorus effect, so if you’re aiming to get the same exact feel you should also take that into consideration.

We also mentioned that you need some distortion. The ProCo Rat is a legendary pedal that you can still get today, but I don’t know if the current versions have the same sonic quality as the originals from the early 80’s. Nonetheless, a good distortion pedal will suffice.

Another thing that often goes overlooked is the pick. If you look closely, Reynolds used a coin as his guitar pick. I do not know the size or type of the coin, but it’s there. This will definitely have an impact on the overall sound being produced so experimentation on your behalf is encouraged.

Finally, you have the guitars. I wouldn’t put so much stress on this. He used guitars with Humbuckers, Single Coils, and P-90s. However, it seems to me that the Kramer XL-5 was his weapon of choice.

Some Final Thoughts

I find it really curious how these two players achieved the same kind of technique and approach for playing the guitar. It is also remarkable that they have pretty much the same age (The Edge is one year older).

But… one became really famous with his band and the other only enjoyed a couple of years under the spotlight.

Needless to say, the point here is not to determine the causes or the inflection points of why this happened, but to let you know that two people can arrive at the same conclusions and still manage to differentiate themselves with little nuances that in end produce great results. In this case, two very similar but distinctive styles of playing

Also, I don’t think one is better than the other. I’m amazed how Reynolds helped A Flock of Seagulls to push through the typical New Wave sound, but I’m also amazed at how The Edge helped U2 to develop a unique style and sound and this not only helped them through the 80’s but beyond.

What are your thoughts? Do you think one is better than the other? Leave a comment; I would love to read your answers.

Until the next time,

M.M

Credits:

  • Big credits to Rod Moyes from theobscure80s.com for helping me filling the gap on important aspects on Reynolds’ gear as well as mentioning the fact The Edge used some E-bow. You can check his website (link above) or follow him on Facebook.

Additional Resources:

  • https://youtu.be/rtB0xah-YQM – Great rendition of the song “I Ran” by Rod Moyes. I believe he perfectly nailed the guitar tones of Paul Reynolds.

21 Responses

  1. I’d say Paul Reynolds is just an underrated guitarist, which is pretty upsetting. He deserved more attention and credit. In my opinion he made afos what they were.

  2. Agree with comment above. I think he was avant garde in his playing. Minimal but emotional, haunting riffs and solos. I’d put him in a category with Jonny Greenwood and Johnny Marr for originality. I think we got robbed by his music career being so short.

    • Hey guys, thanks for commenting! Maybe you’re aware of this by know, but AFoS recently reunited. Maybe in the not so distant future we would be able to get more info about Reynolds’ gear. All the best!

    • Pauls ‘Young at Heart’ performance? Wow! He had his own gift. Which he shared with us. While he could blow the competition out of the water. He chose to be humble. Thanks for sharing.

  3. Thanks for posting all this stuff man. I’m a big fan of both, especially Reynolds, and I’m glad to see you’ve done so much work and research for this site. Thank you immensely.

  4. I think I remember Paul using a Roland space echo ?? I once played his firebird through all his gear at their rehearsal room in Liverpool ..

  5. It will remain a mystery how far Reynolds would have reached if he hadn’t quit so young…an incredible musician but underrated….he is not less than the edge or inclusive my beloved Johnny Marr…the real fact is that we couldn’t see him growing….i am sure he would have reached the highest in musical industry.

  6. I totally agree on what a shame it was that AFoS seemed so written off, and Paul’s unique guitar voice on guitar even moreso. Their first two albums are brilliant.

    It just so happens that my first concert as a teen was seeing AFoS at Houston, TX’s Six Flags’ Astroworld. And just a few hours before the show, I happened to get on the park’s signature roller coaster (Greezed Lightnin) and have then see the band escorted in via the exit to ride at the same time. Talking about a ride being a thrill! And I still recall being impressed and amazed (for some reason) that my one of my favorite band’s guitar player was accompanied by a one-legged young woman who seemed to be his girlfriend/wife/companion, and thinking how the Rock n Roll lifestyle seemed to have not affected his humanity in the least. Too bad it was only anecdotal evidence. I hope he and the rest of the guys are doing well – hopefully cultural history recognizes their contributions sooner or later.

    Thanks for doing your part!

    • Thank you for recognizing Paul Reynolds. He is definitely a skillfull, unique guitarist. When I started playing guitar in high school; Paul, and the edge were definitely some of my heroes. So I just wanted to add that Paul Reynolds used a six pence coin. I love the beginning of “it’s not me (talking)”…just awsome sound.

      • I strongly believe that the Edge was influenced by Paul Reynolds, TheEdge came out with his sound in 1983 , before that its guitar sound was completely different, and in 1982 m a year before, Paul Reynolds was already reached this sound with his guitar. No doubt obout it , both are jus amazing, but Reynolds was the creator of the delayed sound as we know it and love it.

  7. So happy to see Paul Reynolds get some well deserved recognition. So many indie hipsters dismissed AFoS as a joke by the mid eighties but I always thought they had some great songs and that Paul was a super cool dude and I loved his guitar work. Also, I definitely remember seeing him use an ebow in one of their videos…which would add another similarity to the Edge… can’t seem to find that video now? Can anyone help me out with this one?

    • He can be seen playing with an E-Bow in live videos of “Wishing (if I had a photograph of you)”. Especially towards the end of the song.

  8. “I think Edge’s signature sound should be traced to the early and mid 80’s with three main albums: War (1983), The Unforgettable Fire (1984) and The Joshua Tree (1987). ”

    You include the War album, which the Edge stated in interviews was the album he made a conscious effort to drastically reduce/ move away from using the delay effect (granted that New Years Day used delay to good effect, though the song was half piano and half guitar). But you don’t include the first two albums (Boy and October) that he absolutely defined his trademark delay guitar style with? Tracks such as I Will Follow, Electric Co., A Day Without Me, Out of Control, Gloria, Rejoice, Fire, Is That All?, Scarlet etc. all highlight Edge’s trademark delay guitar style. Especially as the songs were pretty much written around the delay riffs and melodies.

    Also, you don’t need two AC30 amps to get the Edge sound. Edge likely has two on stage simply to have two different amp settings (one clean, one overdriven) so that he can quickly switch between them for songs requiring different amp settings. This saves having to manually adjust the amp controls between songs.

    Glad to see Paul Reynolds get his dues. He’s an incredible guitarist who had a fantastic sound. Looking at his work with AFOS, one can only imagine what he could have become had the pressures of touring and being under the spotlight not been too much for him. The first three AFOS albums are a must have, as not only was Paul underrated, so was the band as a whole. There are some incredible songs on those albums.

  9. I’ve always been in awe of Paul Reynolds (Reno) and I believe it was an old English Penny he used in ‘I Ran’.
    I also read somewhere that Mike Score was very Jeolus of the attention Paul recieved which would probably have helped in his early departure from the Band. Apparently Score would continually try to mute Paul’s sound stating the he…Mike Score was the main reason for their success.
    In my view he was a very ordinary singer almongst an extraordinary lead Bass and drummer. Even his brother, Ali the drummer didn’t speak to him for some 20 years after his departure shortly after Reno.
    It’s quite obvious in all the interviews with Score that he’s very self opionated and probably the main reason the original lineup dissolved.
    Reynolds with his unique sound and that Kramer XL-5 was in my view responsible for AFOS that bands success.
    Thanks ever so much for recognising Paul’s incredible ability he deserves it.

  10. Don’t want to start a debate or whatsoever but I believe that Edge’s sound starting in 1983 changed to Reno’s sound. I get the impression that he copied Paul’s or atleast was influenced by it.

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